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INFLAMATORY RESPONSES TO "ILLEGAL" BLOG

by Leo E. Laurence, J.D., Member, San Diego "Pro" Chapter; Member, National Committee on Diversity

      While I expected my personal blog on gay marriages to create the largest storm of protests of many blogs I've written, I was wrong.

   My blog urging journalists, as a matter of law, to avoid using the phrase "illegal aliens" or "illegal immigrants" drew far more strong, and sometimes profane, responses.

      When a person has to use offensive profanity to prove their point, I usually disregard it as the product of a crude mind.  So goes the profane response by Jeff Barber and sent, not to me as the blogger, but to the SPJ's ececutive direcvtyor, Terry Harper.

      Other responses, however, deserve a response.

      "I was shocked when I discovered your article "AVOID THE PHRASE 'ILLEGAL' IMMIGRANTS. I was even more horrified when I found the website of the Society of Professional Journalists.  The group should be named the Society for aiding the enemy" (sic), wrote Jeff (no last name or city).

   "You are an enemy soldier," Jeff added. Considering Jeff's attitude, I consider his criticism a compliment.

   While the blog is part of the SPJ's diversity committee's contribution to the SPJ's website, the blogs are the personal opinions of the blogger, and NOT necessarily a statement of position by the SPJ.

      "This (blog) is one of the most misguided articles I have ever come across," wrote James (also, no last name) of Fort Collins, Colorado.

      "Actually, as I ponder this silliness, I begin to understand the diminished role of journalists in our society.

      "An immmigrant who is in this country illegally is an illegal immigrant (the term 'alien,' I agree, is unnecessary) The mere presence (sic) is an admission of guilt," James wrote.

      As a matter of law, however, that argument has no merit.

      A person, any person, does not admit to a crime simply by their presence at the scene of that alleged crime. That's not the way our criminal justice system works.

      Again, we go to the basic issue that was described in detail in the original blog: that only a court of law can decide if a person is illegal or guilty of a crime; including our federal, immigration laws.

      But, many of those who want to send all undocumented immigratns "back where they came from" don't want to bother with such important procedural protections as due process of law.

      Indeed, even the president has repeatedly said that, as a pratical matter, there are so many people in this country who are undocumented immigrants, it would be impossible to process all those cases through our federal district courts.

      There would simply too many. The flood of cases would mean that no civil cases could be heard because criminal cases always must be heard before civil cases.

      Those who want to ignore the procedural requirements of due process of law for those horrible "illegal aliens," would also be the first to scream bloody murder if they wre treated the same way in our criminal courts. What hypocrites!

      Mike Butler suggested that I use my spell-checker because he found misspelling in my blog. Then he accused me of being "a Latino lover, illegal immigrant disapprover (sic), non-Latino phobe (sic)." "Sic" is a literary term indicating that a gramatical error exists in the original quote.

      Then there is Mike and Lese Meyer (no city) who believe people in America must "earn the right to be protected by American law."

      Where do you find that crazy idea in the Constitution?

  "Your comments such as 'all persons are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law' was only meant for American citizens," they wrote.  Again, that statement has no merit in the law.

      While I criticized use of the term illegal aliens, a word that makes it sound like our undocumented immigrants are coming from another planet; Stephen Bennet of mooresville, North Carolina, took the idea one step further.

      "If you prefer, another term that would be just as correct to use is 'invaders.' I would consider the two (aliens and invaders) interchangeable," Bennet wrote.

      So, now these "aliens" are from outter space and are invading us ???

      Joe Nowlin wrote, "As far as I know, it is illegal for an immigrant to enter the USA without proper identification. If we can agree on that fact, than (sic) by definition an undocumented immigrant is an illegal immigrant . . . So, your undocumented immigrant term is equally politically incorrect and offensive."

      The only problem with Nowlin's logic is that it is faulty, as a matter of law. It totally disregards the requirements of due process of law that must be satisfied before a court can rule that any person is "illegal."

      A person who is in this country without proper documentation is an alleged illegal immigrant. They are not, in fact, illegal until a court so rules, as my original blog startes.

      This obviously is a very HOT button issue.

      But, I find it very sad and hypocritical that so many people, who would DEMAND all the procedural protections of due process of law if they were charged with a crime, as so willing to ignore those same legal protections for people with brown skin without papers.

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For comment, contact Leo Laurence at leopowerhere@msn.com or at (619) 757-4909.

Published Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:06 PM by LeoLaurence

Comments

# re: INFLAMATORY RESPONSES TO "ILLEGAL" BLOG

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:14 AM by Greenhorne00
You are doing precisely the same thing that you are warning against when you refer to the Minutemen as "Anti-Latino".  I doubt very seriously that the Minutemen would consider themselves to be Anti-Latino.  They only claim to be against illegal immigration.

While I will concede the point reluctantly, if you want to inject the word "Alleged" when referring to a foreiner suspected to be in America without the proper authority. But, clarity is much more important than fairness.  Since you object so much to the term Illegal Alien let me reference the definition of the term illegal and alien for you:

Illegal:
adj.  
Prohibited by law.
Prohibited by official rules: an illegal pass in football.
Unacceptable to or not performable by a computer: an illegal operation.

n.   An illegal immigrant.

Alien:
1. a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen).  
2. a foreigner.  
3. a person who has been estranged or excluded.  
4. a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial.  
–adjective 5. residing under a government or in a country other than that of one's birth without having or obtaining the status of citizenship there.  
6. belonging or relating to aliens: alien property.  
7. unlike one's own; strange; not belonging to one: alien speech.  
8. adverse; hostile; opposed (usually fol. by to or from): ideas alien to modern thinking.  

     Source:  
American Psychological Association
(APA):alien. (n.d.). Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Retrieved June 25, 2008, from Dictionary.com website: Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, c. //dictionary.reference.com/browse/alien (accessed: June 25, 2008).
Modern Language Association (MLA): "alien." Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, Inc. 25 Jun. 2008. <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/alien>.

Doug Rowland
Plano, TX

PS: Before you call me Anit-Latino, I'm married to a "Latino" AKA a Mexican.  She is not afraid to be described as a Mexican. It's not a dirty word.

# re: INFLAMATORY RESPONSES TO "ILLEGAL" BLOG

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:42 AM by vxworksjrm
Cross posting this from the original article since the discussion bounced over here.

Some misspellings and improper usage in the original article:
(see http://spj.org/blog/blogs/diversity/archive/2008/06/23/20797.aspx)

Para 5:

(--beyong-- a reasonable doubt).

Para 8:

--murders-- should be murderers

Para 14:

--Califolrnoa-- Supreme Court

also marriage, immigrants and Massachusetts  are spelled incorrectly.

Please use a spell checker, it will make your articles look more professional and easier to read.

I don't see your point about not using the term illegal alien.  Illegal means forbidden by law or statute  (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illegal)  and alien means a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen). (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/alien).  Dictionary source chosen by first google link that came up.  An illegal alien is someone who is not a citizen and is in a country without its permission.  Therefore using strange (unusual, extraordinary, or curious; odd;    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/strange) in the following paragraph is incorrect:

"It is strange, therefore, that reporters today will commonly write that undocumented immigrants are illegal, when the alleged crime is a non-capital offense. In other words, we treat alleged murders more cautiously than we treat immigrants."

I am not sure where capital or non-capital offense comes into play.  If I make an illegal U turn, I am an illegal U turner.  It doesn't matter if it is a capital offense or not.  Also,  if I deny performing an illegal U turn, then of course I am an alleged illegal U turner until found guilty in a court of law.  If someone is referring to a class of people who are not citizens, and do not have permission to be in the country, they are in fact illegal aliens.  As this is the definition of an illegal alien.  If you were to refer to an individual, as an illegal alien, and they have not admitted this to be the case nor been found guilty of this offense then I guess one would refer to them as an alleged illegal alien.  A possible reason that murderers are treated more cautiously than illegal aliens is that rarely is there incontrovertible proof that someone has committed a murder, while proving someone is an illegal alien is relatively easy.  Either they are on the books or they are not on the books.  Of course there is the case of the 100 year old woman from Louisiana (age and state are to the best of my recollection) who predates written records, doesn't have a driving license nor a birth certificate, but it would be reasonable to conclude that these cases are rare.

J Moore
Virginia
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